Early Saints Talk

Questions:

Do you know that in the Washington, Denver, Minnesota, and Chicago game, the Saints offense had a chance to win the game and they did not?

There were two missed field goals but why should we even be kicking field goals if our offense is really that explosive?

There was only one game where the Saints offense came back to win and that was a 29-24 victory against the Falcons late in the season.

The Saints offense is very good but do you know that Drew Brees had 3 of his best passing games as far as yards in losses?

Denver 34 Saints 31 Brees 421 yards
Atlanta 34 Saints 20 Brees 422 yards
Carolina 33 Saints 31 Brees 386 yards

I agree that the Saints offense is good but I am seeing a trend of a lot of meaningless yards and offensive rating that does not translate into the playoffs. Without balance, the Saints offense is just a team that throws the ball a lot from behind.

Dario K. Mobley
Electrical Engineer



-----Original Message-----From: Elgin E Suggs

Check this out...

Free agents lost: S Josh Bullocks(notes), WR Terrance Copper(notes), S
Kevin Kaesviharn(notes), FB Mike Karney(notes), RB Deuce McAllister(notes),
CB Mike McKenzie(notes), WR David Patten(notes), DE Josh Savage(notes), DT
Hollis Thomas(notes), DT Brian Young(notes)


Free agents gained: TE Dan Campbell(notes), DT Rod Coleman(notes), TE
Darnell Dinkins(notes), FB Heath Evans(notes), CB Jabari Greer(notes), DE
Anthony Hargrove(notes), C Nick Leckey(notes), S Pierson Prioleau(notes), S
Darren Sharper(notes), DE Paul Spicer(notes), WR Paris Warren(notes), LB
Anthony Waters(notes), WR D'Juan Woods(notes)


Drafted: CB Malcolm Jenkins(notes), S Chip Vaughn(notes), ILB Stanley
Arnoux(notes), P Thomas Morstead(notes)


The average score of a Saints game in 2008 was Saints 28.9, Opponents 24.6.
That's the best scoring offense in the league, and the 26th-best scoring
defense. My extensive experience in watching football tells me that the
Saints need to get better at ... any guesses? Anyone? Anyone? Defense.


Unfortunately, we're unable to narrow it down to rushing defense or passing
defense, because neither one was very good.


It'll be a whole new secondary, though, with first-round draft pick Michael
Jenkins(notes) hopefully taking over at one corner spot while free-agent
addition Jabari Greer takes over the other. Darren Sharper is a nice
veteran addition at safety, too. It might not end up being a great
secondary, but it will at least be different. And when you're awful,
different is good.


Show me a bad secondary, though, and chances are, it's accompanied by a
weak pass rush. The improvement there is going to have to come not from
personnel so much, but from the new defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams.
Additions like Paul Spicer and Anthony Hargrove provide some depth, but if
opposing quarterbacks feel any real pain, it's going to be because of
scheme and the coaching up of Saints such as Will Smith and Charles Grant
(notes). That gets harder to imagine when you consider that both of those
guys will likely miss the first four games of the season due to a
suspension.


Progress: The Saints don't need their defense to turn into the 1970s
Steelers. The Saints don't need to win games 6-3. As long as Drew Brees
(notes) is there, he has some weapons around him, and and the Saints keep
turning him loose on opposing secondaries, the offense is going to be a
force. If Gregg Williams wants to make everyone on defense wear T-shirts
that read, "LET'S BE AVERAGE," and they can live up to that, the Saints
will be in the playoffs.


Plus two games. 8-8 last year, 10-6 this year.


"Dario Mobley" wrote on 06/10/2009 10:01:21 AM:

> I like the depth of the defensive line on paper but like I said, I don't
> feel that urge to give them my solid grade.
>
> Will Smith - overrated
> Charles Grant- overrated
> Sedrick Ellis- alright last year
> Coleman- good two years ago but who knows now
> Clancy- journeyman
>
> I am glad about the backfield also but Tracy Porter has to prove to me, I
am
> not familiar with Greer but I hear good things on Buffalo message boards.
I
> am happy with Sharper but I am not confident in Harper.
>
> We will see with Greg Williams. I think it will take him another year
maybe
> two to build the defense the way he wants. We will see improvements but
not
> from 20 something to 5.
>
> We drafted Usama Young in 2007 and Tracy Porter last year. Do you mean
that
> was the first time in the first round? Yeah, if you meant that, I think
the
> last time we drafted a corner in the first round was Alex Molden.
>
> I am not concerned about the receivers at all. It was just another weapon
> added in Meachem. I would not move Colston. He has proven to be an above
> average starter and he has the chance to be an elite receiver in the
league.
> I am not moving or touching him. The other receivers has to get in where
> they fit in. He is a lock at receiver for me.
>
> Again, I agree with you. I do feel better about Greer and Sharper in the
> secondary.
>
> But Party, where is the pass rush? Still unaddressed? I guess you can't
have
> everything in one year.
>
> Dario K. Mobley
> Electrical Engineer
> >
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elgin E Suggs
>
> well..I like the depth we have on the defensive line...
>
> We have a new defensive Backfield, which to me is a good thing.
>
> We do need Another linebacker, I agree...maybe they feel that one of the
> people they have will be good enough.
>
> Here's the thing...I hope they don't put too much pressuRe on Greg,
because
> of his past...he as you said...did well with the draft...
>
> I like the fact that they drafTed a corner for the first time in about
> twenty years...maybe thats sign...or at least that's what I'm going to
say
> for now...
>
> If meachem is a beast...then, they need to put him as the primarY, and
put
> colston on the other side...henderson in the slot. I would even thing of
> putting colston in a the tight end position...???
>
> I like Sharper in the secondary...and Jabari greer has good speed and was
a
> starter in Buffalo before being hurt...
>
> "Dario Mobley" wrote on 06/10/2009 09:41:10
AM:
>
> > dan morgan retired again. that is not a surPrise. we are back poo at
> > linebacker. pierre thomas went from squAtting 490 pounds to 675 pounds.
> he
> > says he will get the tough yards this year. he blamed himself last
year.
> ray
> > went to minicamp and he said pieRre thomas looked bottom heavy.
> >
> > reporTs have been surfacing that meachem is looking like a beast.
> > whY reggie bush wants to win the mvp?
> >
> > they asked drew brees "what do you say to reggie Bush about him saying
he
> > think the saints can win the suPer bowl"
> >
> > brees sAys he better back it up. what do you think about that?
> >
> > for me, heRe are players that are solid, no doubt players:
> >
> > offense: brees, jahri evans, jamal brown, colston, devery
henderson(from
> the
> > standpoinT that we know he can go deep)
> >
> > defense: vilma, sharper, fujita (just barelY)
> >
> > come on dog. we went into this year with depth at the weakside
> linebacker.
> > we had dan morgan, scott poo-le, rookie from wake forest and dunbar.
> >
> > now, the rookie is out for the season and morgan retired.
> >
> > do you know mark simeanou is still on the team?
> >
> > ray did not have too much to say about jabari greer.