From: Dario Mobley
To: Moses Cage
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:59:38 PM
Subject: I have a point
Mo,I am going to ask you series of questions in an effort to try to see what you think about this assumption but I can't tell you what the assumption is because if I do, it would make the point lose validity considering the masses emotion toward this particular subject.Firstly, we got another one so I am happy about that. I am also happy for Kobe.
The first question is in your lifetime, would you say that Scottie Pippen is the most versatile and therefore best perimeter defeneder you have ever seen? Maybe even the best ever?
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, moses cage wrote:From: moses cage
Subject: Re: I have a point
To: "Dario Mobley"
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:25 PM
My first thought it that he is the best perimeter defender I've seen. But I'm not sure if that's me saying that, or the media's influence on me saying that. When I think about Phil putting him on Stockton in the Finals and how that changed the entire series, plus his long arms against 2-guards trying to shoot over him, plus his instincts in the passing lanes and athleticism to block shots and rebound...he has to be considered the best in my lifetime. Nobody combined the size, speed, length, instincts, and play-making ability that Scottie had.Alvin Robertson, Joe Dumars, Dennis Rodman (with the Pistons), Gary Payton, Gerald Wilkins, John Starks, Dennis Johnson, Xavier McDaniel, and others deserve consideration (and of course Jordan), but Scottie has to be number 1.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:36:43 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
Okay, I agree that he is the best. I would say Jordan but they had to switch Pippen on Magic Johnson in the 91 finals and the Dream Team put Pippen on Toni Kukoc when they played Croatia in the 92 Olympics. Jordan had the ability but he rarely had to prove as much as Pippen did.
Second Question:
Could the 2008 Celtics and 2004 Pistons beat the 91 Lakers, 93 Suns, 96 Sonics and 98 and 99 Utah Jazz?
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, moses cage wrote:
From: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: I have a point
To: "Dario Mobley" dadeo23@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:44 PM
No way! I'm not even gonna discuss the Pistons. Not enough fire power to beat any of those Western Champs in a 7 gave series. That Pistons squad could barely reach 90 points...the Sonics and Lakers lived in the 100s.The Celtics are a more copelling matchup, but Magic, Stockton, GP, and KJ would kill Rondo (who the Celtics offered to the Pistons today...). Also, each of those teams had all-star/mvp-caliber power forwards at the prime of their careers...KG would have had his hands full. The '08 Celtics couldn't win on the road in the playoffs, going 7 games against poo squads. They wouldn't be able to win in Salt Lake or Seattle. The wouldn't have been deep enough either. All of those teams had a bench...Eddie House and Big Baby wouldn't be factors.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:20:42 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
Okay, let me put it another way.
B. Wallace/Mehmet Okur- Kendrick Perkins - Ervin Johnson - Divac- Mark West/Oliver Miller - Greg Ostertag/ Antoine Carr
R.Wallace - Kevin Garnett- Kemp - Sam Perkins - Barkley - Malone
Tayshaun - Detlef Schremp- Paul Pierce - Worthy (injured)- Richard Dumas/Ceballos- Russell
Hamilton - Hershey Hawkins- Ray Allen - Byron Scott - Majerle - Hornacek
Billups - Rondo -Payton - Magic - KJ - Stockton
They matchup pretty well with all the teams considering you can put Ben Wallace on all the power forwards. Also, Worthy got hurt in Game 3 but played it out. He played an injured 31 minutes in Game 4 and did not play in Game 5. And with the Celtics, none of those teams have a player like Pierce on the perimeter who could create his own shot at any time on anybody. You got to remember that Kobe averaged 25.7 points and shot 40.5% from the field against the Celtics and 22.6 points and 38.1 percent againt the Pistons. That team defense would keep them in any game. The only team that they could not handle was the 92 Blazers in my opinion.Also, you can't say Eddie House would not be a factor considering that Steve Kerr, John Paxson, Craig Hodges and BJ Armstrong were all major factors for the Bulls championships. Also, Barkley says McHale gave him the most trouble and Malone says Duncan. Both long arm defenders. I would say the KG and Rasheed Wallace is as good as s defender as McHale and Duncan. Would you? Ray Allen has a decided edge over anyone at the 2 position. Kemp destroyed Rodman but they still lost to the Bulls and lost in the first round to Denver with another long armed defender in Mutumbo. Tayshaun could stay with anyone of those players except a healthy Worthy but Worthy was not healthy. Yeah, Magic has the advantage over anyone but I would put Billups against KJ, Stockton or Payton anytime.Rondo would struggle but the Celtics team defense would limit them as none of those point guards aside from Magic and maybe KJ could win a series on there own.Let's agree to say that is debatable but on paper, both teams match up well with all those teams.
Third Question:
Which things are more hurtful to scorers? Pick two out of threeZone Defense, More Atheltic Defenders, Hand Checking, Physical Play
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, moses cage wrote:
From: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: I have a point
To: "Dario Mobley" dadeo23@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:45 PM
I agree that those teams match-up well, but I guess I'm thinking about how much better those teams were as a whole. The were all veteran teams, who would've been ready to play. Plus, all of them had great leadership. Say what u want, but Hornacek, Hawkins, Marjle, and Byron Scott couldnt really create a shot, but each was a bonifide scorer in his own right. And how dare u put Eddie House in the same category as Paxson, BJ Armstrong, and Steve Kerr? U know better than that D. LOL!For your question, I'd normally say Physical Play, and and Athletic Defender (who is taller than the scorer), but only if we're talking about physical play like it was back in the early 90s...not this sissy ball they're playing nowadays....I need somebody to be able to lay LeBronze out if he comes down the lane (scorers can fly to the cup now bc they know nobody can hit them too hard or else it'll be a flagrant-2/ejection). The fear of cathing a Karl Malone elbow across your face would make these boys think twice before going in for a monster jam.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:04:00 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
Correct. Eddie House has not hit clutch shots like those players but I meant that he was a shooter that would get a lot of open shots from creation by a good player like Pierce or KG or Ray Allen. I like Byron Scott to be able to compete with Hamilton and Ray Allen better than Majerle, Hornacek or Hershey Hawkins. Remember that these players were starting two guards who all made the all star team in there careers. (I have a point)Okay, so we can say that athletic defenders and physical play make it very hard for an offensive player.
Fourth Question:
Aside from Scottie Pippen and Isiah who was his teammate and maybe Ron Harper pre-injury, what perimeter players in the NBA from 1984-1999 (Dr. J does not count because he was not in his prime, had the all round versatile offensive game like the players below:Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, T-Mac, Lebron, Kobe, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo, Iverson, Chris Paul, Paul Pierce, Iguoudala, Turkoglu, Durant, Granger, Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay, Magette, Stephen Jackson or even Kevin Martin.
Let's say Granger, Jackson and Martin are not there yet.
Can you name some players during Jordan's era that had games as versatile offensively as any of the players I named above? (I think you know what I am getting at here now. It is just a case and not my personal opinion though)
6/23/09, moses cage wrote:
From: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: I have a point
To: "Dario Mobley" dadeo23@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:28 PM
Ok, first let's admit that athleticism and creativity is at an all time high in this era. The things players can do now weren't even thought aboutback in the 80s and 90s (think about Vince's dunk contest victory in Oakland...His first 2 dunks were the best 2 I had ever seen....PERIOD. Then when he stuck is elbow in the rim, I was in disbelief.).Having said that, Dominique has to be at the top of the list....his althelticism was off the charts. Drexler, Larry Nance, Tom Chambers, and Kenny "Skywalker" are also in that category. Other than Isaiah, no point guard could do what CP3 does, but Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, and Rod Strickland were unguardable. Nobody could do what Lebron does, but Jordan, Wilkins, Skywalker....Worthy had a nice Statue of Liberty dunk, but there just werent as many cats who were creative.
On the other hand, other than a handful of players today, nobody has the intermediate game the way the "Microwave" and Hersey Hawkins had.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:04:58 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
Athleticism is one thing and there is a very strong argument the there were a lot of high jumpers back in the day. Wilt Chamberlain always raved about what Elgin Baylor did and you can see clips of what Dr. J and George Gervin did. If we fast forward a little more we get the Jordan's, Larry Nance, Kemp and Dominique and a little further gives us Vince, Dwight Howard, Stoudamire, Lebron and Kobe's.However, if you check my question again, I said the total offensive game which means dribbling, passing, shooting, and overall coordination to have Jordan like skills. Only Drexler was a perimeter player out of the people you named but if you remembered his game, he was not a create your own shot anytime type of guy like the guys named before. Think about the skills Mitchell had and the skills Jared or even Broderick had. Mitchell was more complete from a skill point of view and that is what all those players I named had. Even the great Bernard King with his great offense was not as versatile as any of those players from this generation that I named. King could score but could not pass like they did. Carmelo is a updated version of Bernard King.
My point is this and I will leave you with this:
Considering that the NBA had different rules, has more athletes, Kobe having to go against more players with his talent level and an arguable point that the teams today (Boston/ Detroit example) would matchup well or in my opinion beat 5 of the six teams Jordan played in the finals, could you have a real round table discussion about who is better out of Michael Jordan & Kobe? (Keep in Mind that is IF KOBE WINS SIX CHAMPIONSHIPS)
On Tue, 6/23/09, moses cage wrote:
From: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: I have a point
To: "Dario Mobley" dadeo23@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 4:13 PM
My bad, I didnt look at the question fully. You're right, but everybody worships Jordan as the best ever (as I do, and always will), but I see him as more than a basketball player. He impacted basketball, sports marketing, opened blacks up to Madison Avenue as CEOs and Brand Names, showed us how to be professionals and still be hip, etc.etc....nobody will ever do that again just because he changed the game and was a world icon. But as a player, anybody who cant see Kobe as a threat to MJ on the court is blind, biased, or just dont understand the game. If Kobe gets to 6 championships, we really have to re-visit the discussion about who is the greatest of all time. Especially if Kobe gets to play an epic Finals against the Celtics or Lebron, or another great player in his prime.Thx for the questions...where the hell is your sports blog. I need something to read other than Bill Simmons. His hate for Kobe and love for everything Boston-related is started to get a bit old and stale to me.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:18:20 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
I think Simmons is a basketball guy but his love for Boston Area sports clouds his judgement. I was pissed at his last Kobe article and I wrote him a long and horrible note. Anyhow, Do you mind if I post these conversations on the blog?---
From: moses cage
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:24:20 -0700 (PDT)
To: Dario Mobleydadeo23@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: I have a point
Of course not. Post away. I agree with your view on the last Kobe article. He hated on him the way a fan hates on a player...I guess he's a columnist so its all his opinion, but I hate that his views are taken as gospel by so many of his readers. Then he added that last paragraph to give Kobe props in case someone like u emails him a nasty letter, he can go back and say "Well you didn't read the last paragraph where I said how great Kobe is." I'm starting to not like him.
From: Dario Mobley dadeo23@yahoo.com
To: moses cage moses_cage@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:50:33 PM
Subject: Re: I have a point
Cool. I will post it. Simmons usually keeps it real except when it comes to boston teams and there rivals. I don't like that because he is one of the few white writers with a passion for nba basketball. He knows his history and understands "some nba officiating" and he tries to point out bad officiating on both sides although I think that he talks about the refs too much. Anyhow, I am off my man. I will post that convo tomorrow.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
Early Saints Talk
Questions:
Do you know that in the Washington, Denver, Minnesota, and Chicago game, the Saints offense had a chance to win the game and they did not?
There were two missed field goals but why should we even be kicking field goals if our offense is really that explosive?
There was only one game where the Saints offense came back to win and that was a 29-24 victory against the Falcons late in the season.
The Saints offense is very good but do you know that Drew Brees had 3 of his best passing games as far as yards in losses?
Denver 34 Saints 31 Brees 421 yards
Atlanta 34 Saints 20 Brees 422 yards
Carolina 33 Saints 31 Brees 386 yards
I agree that the Saints offense is good but I am seeing a trend of a lot of meaningless yards and offensive rating that does not translate into the playoffs. Without balance, the Saints offense is just a team that throws the ball a lot from behind.
Dario K. Mobley
Electrical Engineer
-----Original Message-----From: Elgin E Suggs
Check this out...
Free agents lost: S Josh Bullocks(notes), WR Terrance Copper(notes), S
Kevin Kaesviharn(notes), FB Mike Karney(notes), RB Deuce McAllister(notes),
CB Mike McKenzie(notes), WR David Patten(notes), DE Josh Savage(notes), DT
Hollis Thomas(notes), DT Brian Young(notes)
Free agents gained: TE Dan Campbell(notes), DT Rod Coleman(notes), TE
Darnell Dinkins(notes), FB Heath Evans(notes), CB Jabari Greer(notes), DE
Anthony Hargrove(notes), C Nick Leckey(notes), S Pierson Prioleau(notes), S
Darren Sharper(notes), DE Paul Spicer(notes), WR Paris Warren(notes), LB
Anthony Waters(notes), WR D'Juan Woods(notes)
Drafted: CB Malcolm Jenkins(notes), S Chip Vaughn(notes), ILB Stanley
Arnoux(notes), P Thomas Morstead(notes)
The average score of a Saints game in 2008 was Saints 28.9, Opponents 24.6.
That's the best scoring offense in the league, and the 26th-best scoring
defense. My extensive experience in watching football tells me that the
Saints need to get better at ... any guesses? Anyone? Anyone? Defense.
Unfortunately, we're unable to narrow it down to rushing defense or passing
defense, because neither one was very good.
It'll be a whole new secondary, though, with first-round draft pick Michael
Jenkins(notes) hopefully taking over at one corner spot while free-agent
addition Jabari Greer takes over the other. Darren Sharper is a nice
veteran addition at safety, too. It might not end up being a great
secondary, but it will at least be different. And when you're awful,
different is good.
Show me a bad secondary, though, and chances are, it's accompanied by a
weak pass rush. The improvement there is going to have to come not from
personnel so much, but from the new defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams.
Additions like Paul Spicer and Anthony Hargrove provide some depth, but if
opposing quarterbacks feel any real pain, it's going to be because of
scheme and the coaching up of Saints such as Will Smith and Charles Grant
(notes). That gets harder to imagine when you consider that both of those
guys will likely miss the first four games of the season due to a
suspension.
Progress: The Saints don't need their defense to turn into the 1970s
Steelers. The Saints don't need to win games 6-3. As long as Drew Brees
(notes) is there, he has some weapons around him, and and the Saints keep
turning him loose on opposing secondaries, the offense is going to be a
force. If Gregg Williams wants to make everyone on defense wear T-shirts
that read, "LET'S BE AVERAGE," and they can live up to that, the Saints
will be in the playoffs.
Plus two games. 8-8 last year, 10-6 this year.
"Dario Mobley" wrote on 06/10/2009 10:01:21 AM:
> I like the depth of the defensive line on paper but like I said, I don't
> feel that urge to give them my solid grade.
>
> Will Smith - overrated
> Charles Grant- overrated
> Sedrick Ellis- alright last year
> Coleman- good two years ago but who knows now
> Clancy- journeyman
>
> I am glad about the backfield also but Tracy Porter has to prove to me, I
am
> not familiar with Greer but I hear good things on Buffalo message boards.
I
> am happy with Sharper but I am not confident in Harper.
>
> We will see with Greg Williams. I think it will take him another year
maybe
> two to build the defense the way he wants. We will see improvements but
not
> from 20 something to 5.
>
> We drafted Usama Young in 2007 and Tracy Porter last year. Do you mean
that
> was the first time in the first round? Yeah, if you meant that, I think
the
> last time we drafted a corner in the first round was Alex Molden.
>
> I am not concerned about the receivers at all. It was just another weapon
> added in Meachem. I would not move Colston. He has proven to be an above
> average starter and he has the chance to be an elite receiver in the
league.
> I am not moving or touching him. The other receivers has to get in where
> they fit in. He is a lock at receiver for me.
>
> Again, I agree with you. I do feel better about Greer and Sharper in the
> secondary.
>
> But Party, where is the pass rush? Still unaddressed? I guess you can't
have
> everything in one year.
>
> Dario K. Mobley
> Electrical Engineer
> >
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elgin E Suggs
>
> well..I like the depth we have on the defensive line...
>
> We have a new defensive Backfield, which to me is a good thing.
>
> We do need Another linebacker, I agree...maybe they feel that one of the
> people they have will be good enough.
>
> Here's the thing...I hope they don't put too much pressuRe on Greg,
because
> of his past...he as you said...did well with the draft...
>
> I like the fact that they drafTed a corner for the first time in about
> twenty years...maybe thats sign...or at least that's what I'm going to
say
> for now...
>
> If meachem is a beast...then, they need to put him as the primarY, and
put
> colston on the other side...henderson in the slot. I would even thing of
> putting colston in a the tight end position...???
>
> I like Sharper in the secondary...and Jabari greer has good speed and was
a
> starter in Buffalo before being hurt...
>
> "Dario Mobley" wrote on 06/10/2009 09:41:10
AM:
>
> > dan morgan retired again. that is not a surPrise. we are back poo at
> > linebacker. pierre thomas went from squAtting 490 pounds to 675 pounds.
> he
> > says he will get the tough yards this year. he blamed himself last
year.
> ray
> > went to minicamp and he said pieRre thomas looked bottom heavy.
> >
> > reporTs have been surfacing that meachem is looking like a beast.
> > whY reggie bush wants to win the mvp?
> >
> > they asked drew brees "what do you say to reggie Bush about him saying
he
> > think the saints can win the suPer bowl"
> >
> > brees sAys he better back it up. what do you think about that?
> >
> > for me, heRe are players that are solid, no doubt players:
> >
> > offense: brees, jahri evans, jamal brown, colston, devery
henderson(from
> the
> > standpoinT that we know he can go deep)
> >
> > defense: vilma, sharper, fujita (just barelY)
> >
> > come on dog. we went into this year with depth at the weakside
> linebacker.
> > we had dan morgan, scott poo-le, rookie from wake forest and dunbar.
> >
> > now, the rookie is out for the season and morgan retired.
> >
> > do you know mark simeanou is still on the team?
> >
> > ray did not have too much to say about jabari greer.
Do you know that in the Washington, Denver, Minnesota, and Chicago game, the Saints offense had a chance to win the game and they did not?
There were two missed field goals but why should we even be kicking field goals if our offense is really that explosive?
There was only one game where the Saints offense came back to win and that was a 29-24 victory against the Falcons late in the season.
The Saints offense is very good but do you know that Drew Brees had 3 of his best passing games as far as yards in losses?
Denver 34 Saints 31 Brees 421 yards
Atlanta 34 Saints 20 Brees 422 yards
Carolina 33 Saints 31 Brees 386 yards
I agree that the Saints offense is good but I am seeing a trend of a lot of meaningless yards and offensive rating that does not translate into the playoffs. Without balance, the Saints offense is just a team that throws the ball a lot from behind.
Dario K. Mobley
Electrical Engineer
-----Original Message-----From: Elgin E Suggs
Check this out...
Free agents lost: S Josh Bullocks(notes), WR Terrance Copper(notes), S
Kevin Kaesviharn(notes), FB Mike Karney(notes), RB Deuce McAllister(notes),
CB Mike McKenzie(notes), WR David Patten(notes), DE Josh Savage(notes), DT
Hollis Thomas(notes), DT Brian Young(notes)
Free agents gained: TE Dan Campbell(notes), DT Rod Coleman(notes), TE
Darnell Dinkins(notes), FB Heath Evans(notes), CB Jabari Greer(notes), DE
Anthony Hargrove(notes), C Nick Leckey(notes), S Pierson Prioleau(notes), S
Darren Sharper(notes), DE Paul Spicer(notes), WR Paris Warren(notes), LB
Anthony Waters(notes), WR D'Juan Woods(notes)
Drafted: CB Malcolm Jenkins(notes), S Chip Vaughn(notes), ILB Stanley
Arnoux(notes), P Thomas Morstead(notes)
The average score of a Saints game in 2008 was Saints 28.9, Opponents 24.6.
That's the best scoring offense in the league, and the 26th-best scoring
defense. My extensive experience in watching football tells me that the
Saints need to get better at ... any guesses? Anyone? Anyone? Defense.
Unfortunately, we're unable to narrow it down to rushing defense or passing
defense, because neither one was very good.
It'll be a whole new secondary, though, with first-round draft pick Michael
Jenkins(notes) hopefully taking over at one corner spot while free-agent
addition Jabari Greer takes over the other. Darren Sharper is a nice
veteran addition at safety, too. It might not end up being a great
secondary, but it will at least be different. And when you're awful,
different is good.
Show me a bad secondary, though, and chances are, it's accompanied by a
weak pass rush. The improvement there is going to have to come not from
personnel so much, but from the new defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams.
Additions like Paul Spicer and Anthony Hargrove provide some depth, but if
opposing quarterbacks feel any real pain, it's going to be because of
scheme and the coaching up of Saints such as Will Smith and Charles Grant
(notes). That gets harder to imagine when you consider that both of those
guys will likely miss the first four games of the season due to a
suspension.
Progress: The Saints don't need their defense to turn into the 1970s
Steelers. The Saints don't need to win games 6-3. As long as Drew Brees
(notes) is there, he has some weapons around him, and and the Saints keep
turning him loose on opposing secondaries, the offense is going to be a
force. If Gregg Williams wants to make everyone on defense wear T-shirts
that read, "LET'S BE AVERAGE," and they can live up to that, the Saints
will be in the playoffs.
Plus two games. 8-8 last year, 10-6 this year.
"Dario Mobley"
> I like the depth of the defensive line on paper but like I said, I don't
> feel that urge to give them my solid grade.
>
> Will Smith - overrated
> Charles Grant- overrated
> Sedrick Ellis- alright last year
> Coleman- good two years ago but who knows now
> Clancy- journeyman
>
> I am glad about the backfield also but Tracy Porter has to prove to me, I
am
> not familiar with Greer but I hear good things on Buffalo message boards.
I
> am happy with Sharper but I am not confident in Harper.
>
> We will see with Greg Williams. I think it will take him another year
maybe
> two to build the defense the way he wants. We will see improvements but
not
> from 20 something to 5.
>
> We drafted Usama Young in 2007 and Tracy Porter last year. Do you mean
that
> was the first time in the first round? Yeah, if you meant that, I think
the
> last time we drafted a corner in the first round was Alex Molden.
>
> I am not concerned about the receivers at all. It was just another weapon
> added in Meachem. I would not move Colston. He has proven to be an above
> average starter and he has the chance to be an elite receiver in the
league.
> I am not moving or touching him. The other receivers has to get in where
> they fit in. He is a lock at receiver for me.
>
> Again, I agree with you. I do feel better about Greer and Sharper in the
> secondary.
>
> But Party, where is the pass rush? Still unaddressed? I guess you can't
have
> everything in one year.
>
> Dario K. Mobley
> Electrical Engineer
> >
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elgin E Suggs
>
> well..I like the depth we have on the defensive line...
>
> We have a new defensive Backfield, which to me is a good thing.
>
> We do need Another linebacker, I agree...maybe they feel that one of the
> people they have will be good enough.
>
> Here's the thing...I hope they don't put too much pressuRe on Greg,
because
> of his past...he as you said...did well with the draft...
>
> I like the fact that they drafTed a corner for the first time in about
> twenty years...maybe thats sign...or at least that's what I'm going to
say
> for now...
>
> If meachem is a beast...then, they need to put him as the primarY, and
put
> colston on the other side...henderson in the slot. I would even thing of
> putting colston in a the tight end position...???
>
> I like Sharper in the secondary...and Jabari greer has good speed and was
a
> starter in Buffalo before being hurt...
>
> "Dario Mobley"
AM:
>
> > dan morgan retired again. that is not a surPrise. we are back poo at
> > linebacker. pierre thomas went from squAtting 490 pounds to 675 pounds.
> he
> > says he will get the tough yards this year. he blamed himself last
year.
> ray
> > went to minicamp and he said pieRre thomas looked bottom heavy.
> >
> > reporTs have been surfacing that meachem is looking like a beast.
> > whY reggie bush wants to win the mvp?
> >
> > they asked drew brees "what do you say to reggie Bush about him saying
he
> > think the saints can win the suPer bowl"
> >
> > brees sAys he better back it up. what do you think about that?
> >
> > for me, heRe are players that are solid, no doubt players:
> >
> > offense: brees, jahri evans, jamal brown, colston, devery
henderson(from
> the
> > standpoinT that we know he can go deep)
> >
> > defense: vilma, sharper, fujita (just barelY)
> >
> > come on dog. we went into this year with depth at the weakside
> linebacker.
> > we had dan morgan, scott poo-le, rookie from wake forest and dunbar.
> >
> > now, the rookie is out for the season and morgan retired.
> >
> > do you know mark simeanou is still on the team?
> >
> > ray did not have too much to say about jabari greer.
Monday, March 23, 2009
NBA over College
There are many reasons that I like the NBA over College Basketball. The first is the playground rule. How many times have you been at the playground and all the best players are on the same time and they run about 11 games in a row without losing? A friend/foe that I sometimes refer to as "Life" had to remind me that I did the same thing in a high school basketball tournament and at the time, I thought it was tight but now that I look at it, it was actually kind of poo. I did the same thing that prime basketball universities always do. They get all the best talent and are expected to win. If they lose, they make excuses or it's some unfortunate set of circumstances that cause them to lose. (Think Chris Webber timeout.) Fortunately, my team did not lose but you get the point. Let's take a look at a few teams in the Sweet 16: Duke, Arizona, North Carolina, Memphis, Kansas, Connecticut, Michigan State and Syracuse. Now, think about it for a second and most casual college fans can realize that all of these colleges have won or been to National Championship in the last 15 years. Duke ( won 2001), Arizona (won 1997), North Carolina (Won 2005), Memphis(lost 2008), Kansas(won 2008), UCONN (won 2004), Michigan State (won 2000), and Syracuse( won 2003). Not only have these teams won in the last 15 years, 7 out of 8 has won or been to the championship in the last decade. Let's not forget Villanova won the title in 1985 and Louisville in 1986. Also, let's not mention that the college basketball instiuition of Rick Pitino won it with Kentucky in 1996 and has been to the final four with three different teams.(Providence, Kentucky, Lousiville). College Basketball is like picking a fantasy team on Madden football with no salary cap. In today's game, you could essentially have Peyton Manning at quarterback, Adrian Peterson at running back and Larry Fitzgerald at wide receiver. You would have the best offense in the league. Now, think about that in terms of college basketball. In the 2005 nba draft, North Carolina had 4 players in the first round of the nba draft: Marvin Williams (2), Raymond Felton (5), Sean May (13), & Rashad McCants (14). The only other team to have more than one player in the 2005 nba draft was Illinois with Deron Williams (3) and Luther Head(24). Can you guess who North Carolina played in the championship that year? Yep, Illinois. Now it sounds like my case is designed to be less for the NBA and more against college basketball. Without a stutter, I can easily state the the nba has a flawless resume. The nba has all the best talent in the WORLD and all the best coaches in the WORLD. What more do you need? A coach is a coach no matter what the level is as evident by John Calipari's and Rick Pitino's unimpressive stints in the NBA. So, I am saying that those two coaches are only good at a level where they can get all the best players in the country. On December 9, 2008, the Sacramento Kings beat the Los Angeles Lakers 113-101. The Lakers have the second best record in the league and the Kings have the worst record. So when a lower seed in a 64 man tournament beats a higher seed, you can now shut and understand that this happens in the NBA at least once a week. I picked the most extreme case with the Lakers and the Kings and I am trying to point out that the highest selling point of excitement for the NCAA happens every week in the NBA. Anyhow, since I just threw this article together I am going to close it out because I need to check my NCAA bracket results.
Monday, January 19, 2009
Wow...Where is the Real Blunder in Philly?
As you painfully watch Kevin Curtis miss a catchable ball on Philadelphia's last drive and watch Philadelphia woefully rush for 66 yards by the running backs, you have to wonder if Donovan McNabb is the real blunder in Philly.
If I told you that McNabb would throw for 375 and 3 TD’s and the
eagles score 25 points, would you have thought that the eagles would
lose? A defense that is number 3 in the league and only gives up 18
points per game did not get it done. People want to look at what
they call McNabb’s "inaccuracy" when Roethlisberger, Flacco and
McNabb all have 60% completion ratio for the year. Roethlisberger is
going to the Super Bowl and Flacco was in the AFC championship. Now,
I don’t know what the Eagle game plan was but it seemed to be that
the Eagles turned it around in the second half. Can that be coaching
or all the players played poorly in the 1st half? I would say
coaching. Obviously, McNabb deserves some of the blame because if he
would have won, I would have given him a lot of the credit. I have
never seen people blame a quarterback who had a game like that. What
happen to Tony Dungy when he could not get it done in Tampa?
Fired!!!!! What happen to Dan Reeves when he could not get it done
in Denver? Did the Broncos get rid of Elway? No. Both coaches went
back to the Super Bowl and Dungy won one. The coaches that took over
Denver and Tampa Bay after they left ( Gruden and Shannahan) won
super bowls. Are Reeves and Dungy bad coaches? No. However,
sometimes a coach runs his course with a certain team. You are never
supposed to get rid of a franchise quarterback until he can’t do it
anymore and then, it is questionable. It baffles me how people seem
to view certain people. At no point in time did anyone even mention
getting rid of Peyton Manning. Not once when he was failing. He
never had a game like this in a conference championship. He even
publicly blamed his offensive line after the Pittsburgh loss in the
playoffs. Now, Peyton Manning may be better than McNabb but McNabb
is a legitimate franchise quarterback and if I was him, I would want
to get the hell out of Philadelphia for not being appreciated.
The Eagles did lose though but someone has to take the blame. Why not Donovan? Well, maybe because the defense gave up touchdowns in the first half when New England would have given up field goals and then the lead would not have been large. In Super Bowl 36, The Rams went field goal, missed field goal, New England interception, Rams fumble and all of a sudden 14-3 Partiots. Also, the Philadelphia defense failed to come through on the game winning driving. However, in the spirit of the debate, the Philly offense failed to come through on a potential GAME-TYING drive.
So, blame who you want but to fully blame Donovan is poo to me but let's look at where the real blunder in Philly is that has had a franchise quarteback for 10 years and has failed to put quality weapons around him.
As good as Westbrook is and I hate to point to any draw backs in hisgame, he is oft-injured because he is not a big strong back so he can't standthe pounding. If you put a huge back or even a legitimate change of pace from Westbrook (Jonathan Stewart-Carolina, Duece-Saints, Dominic Rhodes in Indy, Ward/Bradshaw New York), Westbrook could be more effective and you can't talk about money with that because you can get someone very good with low pick in the draft.
The truth will be revealed because Philadelphia could have built there offense through the draft with better slection in the draft and never would have had to acquire Terrell Owens and
give up 10 million in a signing bonus.
Oh okay.....It sounds like you want examples. Well, Read Below then!!!
In 2001, Eagles selected Freddie Mitchell. They passed up Chad
Johnson, Reggie Wayne and Chris Chambers...Ooh and a guy by the name
of Steve Smith. Have you ever heard of a dude called TJ Houshmanzadeh. They passed him
up too!!!!!!!! Freddie Mitchell is not in the league.
2003- Oh my bad dog. ONE MORE FOR YOU!!!!! 2003 Draft- The Eagles took
L.J. Smith (2nd Round, 61 Overall) and passed on Jason Witten (3rd Round,
69 Overall). LJ Smith never made the pro bowl and Jason Witten is a
five time pro bowler.
Does this sound like a trend or what?
Okay, one more.
2004 They took Running back Bruce Perry ( Round 7, 243 Overall). Dang,
did you know that Willie Parker went undrafted that year? DANG!!!!!! Oh,
Wes Welker was undrafted too!!!!! Come on dog. Nobody looks at this stuff.
Bruce Perry is in the CFL!!!!!
2005- You are going to laugh when you here this. In the 2005 draft, the
Eagles took running back Ryan Moats (3rd Round, 77 overall). They passed up
Marion Barber (4th Round, 109 overall) and Brandon Jacobs (4th Round, 110
overall). Oh, have you ever heard of a dude named Darren Sproles? (4th Round,130
overall). Moats plays for the Houston Texans.
I know you are not supposed to hit on all your draft picks but
DANG!!!!!!!!
2006- ONE MORE!!!!! ( Loud-high pitched) They took Jeremy Bloom (5th
Round,147 overall) and passed on....Wait, wow, wait one eye close, wait,
wait yes, you guessed it: Marques Colston ( 7th Round, 252 overall). They respond
by signing Hank Baskett who is 6-4 220 pounds as an undrafted free agent.
Wow, a big receiver that you obviously wanted yet you take Jeremy Bloom
over another big receiver. Jeremy Bloom is not on anyone's roster.
Make sense to you?
2007 Eagles took Running Back Tony Hunt (3rd Round, 90th Overall) over
Michael Bush (Round 4, 100 overall), Leron McClain (Round 4, 37th
Overall) and Pierre Thomas (undrafted). Tony Hunt is currently not on an NFL TEAM.
If I told you that McNabb would throw for 375 and 3 TD’s and the
eagles score 25 points, would you have thought that the eagles would
lose? A defense that is number 3 in the league and only gives up 18
points per game did not get it done. People want to look at what
they call McNabb’s "inaccuracy" when Roethlisberger, Flacco and
McNabb all have 60% completion ratio for the year. Roethlisberger is
going to the Super Bowl and Flacco was in the AFC championship. Now,
I don’t know what the Eagle game plan was but it seemed to be that
the Eagles turned it around in the second half. Can that be coaching
or all the players played poorly in the 1st half? I would say
coaching. Obviously, McNabb deserves some of the blame because if he
would have won, I would have given him a lot of the credit. I have
never seen people blame a quarterback who had a game like that. What
happen to Tony Dungy when he could not get it done in Tampa?
Fired!!!!! What happen to Dan Reeves when he could not get it done
in Denver? Did the Broncos get rid of Elway? No. Both coaches went
back to the Super Bowl and Dungy won one. The coaches that took over
Denver and Tampa Bay after they left ( Gruden and Shannahan) won
super bowls. Are Reeves and Dungy bad coaches? No. However,
sometimes a coach runs his course with a certain team. You are never
supposed to get rid of a franchise quarterback until he can’t do it
anymore and then, it is questionable. It baffles me how people seem
to view certain people. At no point in time did anyone even mention
getting rid of Peyton Manning. Not once when he was failing. He
never had a game like this in a conference championship. He even
publicly blamed his offensive line after the Pittsburgh loss in the
playoffs. Now, Peyton Manning may be better than McNabb but McNabb
is a legitimate franchise quarterback and if I was him, I would want
to get the hell out of Philadelphia for not being appreciated.
The Eagles did lose though but someone has to take the blame. Why not Donovan? Well, maybe because the defense gave up touchdowns in the first half when New England would have given up field goals and then the lead would not have been large. In Super Bowl 36, The Rams went field goal, missed field goal, New England interception, Rams fumble and all of a sudden 14-3 Partiots. Also, the Philadelphia defense failed to come through on the game winning driving. However, in the spirit of the debate, the Philly offense failed to come through on a potential GAME-TYING drive.
So, blame who you want but to fully blame Donovan is poo to me but let's look at where the real blunder in Philly is that has had a franchise quarteback for 10 years and has failed to put quality weapons around him.
As good as Westbrook is and I hate to point to any draw backs in hisgame, he is oft-injured because he is not a big strong back so he can't standthe pounding. If you put a huge back or even a legitimate change of pace from Westbrook (Jonathan Stewart-Carolina, Duece-Saints, Dominic Rhodes in Indy, Ward/Bradshaw New York), Westbrook could be more effective and you can't talk about money with that because you can get someone very good with low pick in the draft.
The truth will be revealed because Philadelphia could have built there offense through the draft with better slection in the draft and never would have had to acquire Terrell Owens and
give up 10 million in a signing bonus.
Oh okay.....It sounds like you want examples. Well, Read Below then!!!
In 2001, Eagles selected Freddie Mitchell. They passed up Chad
Johnson, Reggie Wayne and Chris Chambers...Ooh and a guy by the name
of Steve Smith. Have you ever heard of a dude called TJ Houshmanzadeh. They passed him
up too!!!!!!!! Freddie Mitchell is not in the league.
2003- Oh my bad dog. ONE MORE FOR YOU!!!!! 2003 Draft- The Eagles took
L.J. Smith (2nd Round, 61 Overall) and passed on Jason Witten (3rd Round,
69 Overall). LJ Smith never made the pro bowl and Jason Witten is a
five time pro bowler.
Does this sound like a trend or what?
Okay, one more.
2004 They took Running back Bruce Perry ( Round 7, 243 Overall). Dang,
did you know that Willie Parker went undrafted that year? DANG!!!!!! Oh,
Wes Welker was undrafted too!!!!! Come on dog. Nobody looks at this stuff.
Bruce Perry is in the CFL!!!!!
2005- You are going to laugh when you here this. In the 2005 draft, the
Eagles took running back Ryan Moats (3rd Round, 77 overall). They passed up
Marion Barber (4th Round, 109 overall) and Brandon Jacobs (4th Round, 110
overall). Oh, have you ever heard of a dude named Darren Sproles? (4th Round,130
overall). Moats plays for the Houston Texans.
I know you are not supposed to hit on all your draft picks but
DANG!!!!!!!!
2006- ONE MORE!!!!! ( Loud-high pitched) They took Jeremy Bloom (5th
Round,147 overall) and passed on....Wait, wow, wait one eye close, wait,
wait yes, you guessed it: Marques Colston ( 7th Round, 252 overall). They respond
by signing Hank Baskett who is 6-4 220 pounds as an undrafted free agent.
Wow, a big receiver that you obviously wanted yet you take Jeremy Bloom
over another big receiver. Jeremy Bloom is not on anyone's roster.
Make sense to you?
2007 Eagles took Running Back Tony Hunt (3rd Round, 90th Overall) over
Michael Bush (Round 4, 100 overall), Leron McClain (Round 4, 37th
Overall) and Pierre Thomas (undrafted). Tony Hunt is currently not on an NFL TEAM.
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
Dario Complimenting the Pistons!!!! WHAT THE HELL?
From: Pierce, Roy I:
Could this really happen…Pistons and Red Wings be champions in 2008??? I think so!
From: Dario Mobley:
Pistons won’t win b/c of the injury to Billups. It kinda of sucks because I like to see basketball played at the highest level.
From: Pierce, Roy I.
I forgot bout that.
From: Dario Mobley :
I am not liking Boston b/c they are not playing up to their potential. KG is overrated.
From: Pierce, Roy I. :
He the only one playing well on offense on their team!
From: Dario Mobley :
He is a fake superstar. He is not capable of having that big scoring game ( 35 + points) and he is the highest paid player in the league. When he plays a good team (The pistons or Lakers), they are not going to double him and he is going to have to score big. Even Tim Duncan had 40 points the first game against Phoenix. Poo. KG is overrated. He shows all that emotion and he has not taken more than 13 shots the last two games. It is one thing to not be selfish but it is a whole different story when you are the franchise player and you don’t do everything/anything you need to do to allow your team to win. He should score. IF he does not have one of those games, I don't think they can win it. I am officially against him. Rip had 32 points last game.
From: Pierce, Roy I. :
If Cleveland beats Boston I don’t think Billups will need to play until the finals.I see what you’re saying bout KG… but is he suppose to be the ‘franchise’ guy in Boston or is he just suppose to be a team member. Detroit doesn’t have a franchise guy like Kobe, Lebron, MJ, Magic… etc.RIP stepped up last game. I want Sheed to destroy the whole Magic team this game b/c of the guarantee; that would be hilarious. Hornets need to destroy San Anton tonight too or my prediction is done and so are the Hornets.
From Dario Mobley:
Billups will have to play to beat Cleveland also. I am not a Detroit fan but I at least want to see the game be played at it’s full potential. Detroit does not have a franchise guy. Your right but no one on Detroit’s team is making 23.7 million dollars and has won a league MVP and gets the accolades like KG has received. The Magic are not ready and I will stick a foot in my mouth on that one. I think Sheed will have a good game and watch Mr. Rip!!!! I want the Hornets to win but I picked the Spurs. My basketball mind tells me that. I hate that!!!! Anyhow, we will see.
Could this really happen…Pistons and Red Wings be champions in 2008??? I think so!
From: Dario Mobley:
Pistons won’t win b/c of the injury to Billups. It kinda of sucks because I like to see basketball played at the highest level.
From: Pierce, Roy I.
I forgot bout that.
From: Dario Mobley :
I am not liking Boston b/c they are not playing up to their potential. KG is overrated.
From: Pierce, Roy I. :
He the only one playing well on offense on their team!
From: Dario Mobley :
He is a fake superstar. He is not capable of having that big scoring game ( 35 + points) and he is the highest paid player in the league. When he plays a good team (The pistons or Lakers), they are not going to double him and he is going to have to score big. Even Tim Duncan had 40 points the first game against Phoenix. Poo. KG is overrated. He shows all that emotion and he has not taken more than 13 shots the last two games. It is one thing to not be selfish but it is a whole different story when you are the franchise player and you don’t do everything/anything you need to do to allow your team to win. He should score. IF he does not have one of those games, I don't think they can win it. I am officially against him. Rip had 32 points last game.
From: Pierce, Roy I. :
If Cleveland beats Boston I don’t think Billups will need to play until the finals.I see what you’re saying bout KG… but is he suppose to be the ‘franchise’ guy in Boston or is he just suppose to be a team member. Detroit doesn’t have a franchise guy like Kobe, Lebron, MJ, Magic… etc.RIP stepped up last game. I want Sheed to destroy the whole Magic team this game b/c of the guarantee; that would be hilarious. Hornets need to destroy San Anton tonight too or my prediction is done and so are the Hornets.
From Dario Mobley:
Billups will have to play to beat Cleveland also. I am not a Detroit fan but I at least want to see the game be played at it’s full potential. Detroit does not have a franchise guy. Your right but no one on Detroit’s team is making 23.7 million dollars and has won a league MVP and gets the accolades like KG has received. The Magic are not ready and I will stick a foot in my mouth on that one. I think Sheed will have a good game and watch Mr. Rip!!!! I want the Hornets to win but I picked the Spurs. My basketball mind tells me that. I hate that!!!! Anyhow, we will see.
Boston Talk
I tell you what. We will know if he has the K.I. at the end of this series. The only problem is Boston can still go because of Billups hamstring. Also, they can beat Cleveland because they have the homecourt. They are broads to only win on there homecourt. That's fake but Game 5 is going to separate the men from the boys!!!!!!!!
I think Doc Rivers will prepare for Lebron James to have a big game and double and triple him in the fourth quarter. That is where Wally will sell out. Lebron has no help. Imagine Wally in a hostile environment against the best team in the league. Look for him to be shut down and there are no other capable scorers on the team. Think about When Fox shut Wally down. Pitiful.
However, the only silver lining is the defense being played by Cleveland. It has been remarkable. If they can play that defense on the road, they are good. However, the energy of the crowd takes pressure off the home team and the road team has to make shots on the road.
The Cavs lineup in the fourth is Gibson, West, Lebron, Varejo/Wallace, Illgauaskas/Joe Smith.
You can leave 2 out of the three guys open. If they do an offense/defense substitution and put Illgauaskas and Smith in there, it could be interesting as someone will have to hit a shot in my opinion.
However, I think it will be a blowout or not a wire to wire game. Boston wins.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
My bad...I haven't really kept up with his stats. you're right dog, he got all that intensity, and can't score 40. and they don't have nobody on the court that can check him...you would think he would handle that. Dare I say that he doesn't have K.I?
from the looks of it...the cavs are going to win the series.
lebron will probably have a huge game tomorrow and this series is all but done. right?
"Dario Mobley" wrote:
Once he is not doubled, he will have to score 40 and he can't. Also,
he is not aggressive enough. HE has the skills but he is scary. All that
hypeness just to score 20 points a game and be poo.
Don't talk crazy!!! I hate when you do that. He had one good game.
How did he carry them in the first two games?
Game 1: 28 points
Game 2: 13 points
Game 3: 17 points
Game 4: 15 points
He makes 23.7 million dollars just to average 18.8 points and 9.9
rebounds
for the season and 20.1 points and 9.2 rebounds in the playoffs. Come
on dog.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs > >
So, you would think he would play better...same with Allen. I don't
know what's going on with him.
you really think Garnett is overrated? He carried them in the first
two games, dog.
"Dario Mobley" wrote :
Yeah. Walker and Pierce has made it to the east finals before.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
has pierce ever made it out of the first round of the playoffs?
and, you're right!
"Dario Mobley" wrote:
A veteran team with veteran players have no reason to play
horrible on the road. It's the players. KG is overrated and Pierce was never a
superstar and he does not work on his game anymore. He is getting weaker as a slasher and his jump shot has stayed marginal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
Is it the player or the coach that has the Best Team in the
League,record wise, anyway, playing this poorly on the road?
I think Doc Rivers will prepare for Lebron James to have a big game and double and triple him in the fourth quarter. That is where Wally will sell out. Lebron has no help. Imagine Wally in a hostile environment against the best team in the league. Look for him to be shut down and there are no other capable scorers on the team. Think about When Fox shut Wally down. Pitiful.
However, the only silver lining is the defense being played by Cleveland. It has been remarkable. If they can play that defense on the road, they are good. However, the energy of the crowd takes pressure off the home team and the road team has to make shots on the road.
The Cavs lineup in the fourth is Gibson, West, Lebron, Varejo/Wallace, Illgauaskas/Joe Smith.
You can leave 2 out of the three guys open. If they do an offense/defense substitution and put Illgauaskas and Smith in there, it could be interesting as someone will have to hit a shot in my opinion.
However, I think it will be a blowout or not a wire to wire game. Boston wins.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
My bad...I haven't really kept up with his stats. you're right dog, he got all that intensity, and can't score 40. and they don't have nobody on the court that can check him...you would think he would handle that. Dare I say that he doesn't have K.I?
from the looks of it...the cavs are going to win the series.
lebron will probably have a huge game tomorrow and this series is all but done. right?
"Dario Mobley" wrote:
Once he is not doubled, he will have to score 40 and he can't. Also,
he is not aggressive enough. HE has the skills but he is scary. All that
hypeness just to score 20 points a game and be poo.
Don't talk crazy!!! I hate when you do that. He had one good game.
How did he carry them in the first two games?
Game 1: 28 points
Game 2: 13 points
Game 3: 17 points
Game 4: 15 points
He makes 23.7 million dollars just to average 18.8 points and 9.9
rebounds
for the season and 20.1 points and 9.2 rebounds in the playoffs. Come
on dog.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs > >
So, you would think he would play better...same with Allen. I don't
know what's going on with him.
you really think Garnett is overrated? He carried them in the first
two games, dog.
"Dario Mobley" wrote :
Yeah. Walker and Pierce has made it to the east finals before.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
has pierce ever made it out of the first round of the playoffs?
and, you're right!
"Dario Mobley" wrote:
A veteran team with veteran players have no reason to play
horrible on the road. It's the players. KG is overrated and Pierce was never a
superstar and he does not work on his game anymore. He is getting weaker as a slasher and his jump shot has stayed marginal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Elgin E Suggs
Is it the player or the coach that has the Best Team in the
League,record wise, anyway, playing this poorly on the road?
Monday, May 12, 2008
Response to a Steve Weinman Article
Steve,
I don't know you and this is the first article I read that was written by you. The particular article was about OJ Mayo and here is the link:
http://mvn.com/nba-source/2007/08/28/nba-in-no-need-of-oj/
Now, as a real NBA basketball fan, I have to take this time to ask you some questions, make a few statements and just give you an overview of what it means to be a person that watches the NBA.
Firstly, you say the NBA has an image problem. That may be true but the NBA still seems to be expanding globally better than any of our big three professional sports. Consequently, the fans the NBA are losing in the United States are being picked up in other countries. However, I am not here to argue the business of the NBA. I am here to talk to you about OJ Mayo. I don't know OJ Mayo at all. I have never met him and I have only seen clips of his high school games and I have seen a lot of his games at USC. THe difference between you and me is that I act like I don't know. You really feel like you know him. The recruiting himself to USC, throwing the ball of the backboard to himself and all of the trouble you mentioned in your article seems to somehow give you a glimpse into OJ Mayo's world.
Now, I know you are not naive enough to believe that high school kids all over the United States don't smoke marijuana, get into fights or get held back in school. With that being said, since you love basketball, please explain to me what that has to do with his skills as a basketball player?My problem with you is that you are letting a philosophical difference in the way you see life determine that the NBA does not need OJ Mayo. Basically, the slang term for what you are doing is "hating".
Michael Jordan and Larry Bird are arguably two of the most like able NBA superstars in NBA history. Michael Jordan and Larry Bird was infamous for "talking trash". However, when those two talk trash, they are mentally strong players and that adds to their competitive fire. Larry Bird made a three pointer on Chuck Person and promptly told him "Merry Fucking Christmas." However, they are two of the greatest players ever and I don't argue with that. I spoke to a guy that worked at the Boston Garden. He told me that when he asked Larry Bird for an autograph, Bird distinctly told him "NO". Additionally, Bird always denied reporters and everyone interviews. Michael Jordan was never ever on a video game once because of business issues. However, Bird is still a fierce competitor and Michael Jordan is still the all-American NBA player.
Let me get to the point. Michael Jordan and Larry Bird are great to me because of what they did on the court. Period. Forget off the court and forget dunking the ball at the end and throwing it to the crowd. Within your whole article, you forgot to mention one thing about OJ Mayo's game. You forgot to say he will be an undersized shooting guard in the NBA or he may struggle at the point guard because he is not a true point guard. Also, he has to take better shots and become a more consistent shooter. I don't see where you said anything about basketball. See, people like you who claim to love basketball wants basketball to be played in the way you desire it to be seen. However, San Antonio is the most fundamental, classy team in the NBA and half of America hates them. So, how does the NBA win? Can the NBA win? Is this a bigger issue than OJ Mayo being able to play better defense? What are we dealing with here? I don't attach myself to the individual NBA person. I attach myself to what they do on the court and that is the level we should use when analyzing players.
I dislike everything about Tim Duncan but I will watch San Antonio because I respect what they do ON THE COURT. I do not let my off the court philosophies affect what I see on the court. If Mayo pounds his chest and does 16 off the backboard dunks and wins the game, I don't care. If Mayo doesn't have any tattoos and was not a basketball prodigy and fed the homeless everyday for the rest of the life and was an advisor to The Pope and loses, I care because I only care about his basketball game.. The moment someone does not get it done on the court is when I take my time to slice them apart with a sharp blade. I don't care if he recruits himself to USC. I was a very good student in high school and I "recruited myself" to the University of my choice. Also, I "recruited myself" to summer interns to prepare myself for graduation. That was my dream though. Who am I or who are you to say that OJ Mayo should not do everything he can to set himself up for his dream? Now, I have an education but as you know everyone will not go the education route so is it fair for us to say "The NBA does not need" him because he wanted to be better prepared for his path and route in life? Is anyone saying that Bill Gates is stupid because he did not finish college? I think you get my point.
In conclusion, if you love basketball like you say, why do you care about the things that have nothing to do with basketball? Tracy McGrady and Dirk Nowitski are classy but they don't get it done when it counts, so I would say the NBA does not need them before I say it does not need OJ Mayo. Imagine how many Rocket and Maverick fans went to work the next day sick to their stomach because 16 million and 19 million dollars were going home in the first round yet again. Again, I don't care if you are the classiest player in the world or the thug that robs a bank after every game (not literally). I only care if you win. I watch the NBA for the competitive passion that is displayed by the players and not who they are cheating on their wives with because as much as that is a moral issue, at the end of the day, the NBA is only a game and it involves me passionately just like a game of chest. When the game is over, I analyze and talk about the game and then I am on to the next game. That's it. If Tim Duncan or Stephen Jackson hits a game winner, I commend them equally. I don't have any bias and you should not either because IF YOU LOVE BASKETBALL LIKE YOU SAY, it does not have to be played with everyone shaking hands and patting each other on the back after the game. It should be played with passion and fire and a competitive spirit and any form of expression is okay with me AS LONG AS YOU WIN. So when you write an article talking about the deficiencies in OJ MAYO's basketball game and not the deficiencies in his personality or decisions of the court, please send me a link because Dirk Nowitski losing in the first round stimulates my NBA passion a lot more than OJ Mayo having marijuana in his car.
I don't know you and this is the first article I read that was written by you. The particular article was about OJ Mayo and here is the link:
http://mvn.com/nba-source/2007/08/28/nba-in-no-need-of-oj/
Now, as a real NBA basketball fan, I have to take this time to ask you some questions, make a few statements and just give you an overview of what it means to be a person that watches the NBA.
Firstly, you say the NBA has an image problem. That may be true but the NBA still seems to be expanding globally better than any of our big three professional sports. Consequently, the fans the NBA are losing in the United States are being picked up in other countries. However, I am not here to argue the business of the NBA. I am here to talk to you about OJ Mayo. I don't know OJ Mayo at all. I have never met him and I have only seen clips of his high school games and I have seen a lot of his games at USC. THe difference between you and me is that I act like I don't know. You really feel like you know him. The recruiting himself to USC, throwing the ball of the backboard to himself and all of the trouble you mentioned in your article seems to somehow give you a glimpse into OJ Mayo's world.
Now, I know you are not naive enough to believe that high school kids all over the United States don't smoke marijuana, get into fights or get held back in school. With that being said, since you love basketball, please explain to me what that has to do with his skills as a basketball player?My problem with you is that you are letting a philosophical difference in the way you see life determine that the NBA does not need OJ Mayo. Basically, the slang term for what you are doing is "hating".
Michael Jordan and Larry Bird are arguably two of the most like able NBA superstars in NBA history. Michael Jordan and Larry Bird was infamous for "talking trash". However, when those two talk trash, they are mentally strong players and that adds to their competitive fire. Larry Bird made a three pointer on Chuck Person and promptly told him "Merry Fucking Christmas." However, they are two of the greatest players ever and I don't argue with that. I spoke to a guy that worked at the Boston Garden. He told me that when he asked Larry Bird for an autograph, Bird distinctly told him "NO". Additionally, Bird always denied reporters and everyone interviews. Michael Jordan was never ever on a video game once because of business issues. However, Bird is still a fierce competitor and Michael Jordan is still the all-American NBA player.
Let me get to the point. Michael Jordan and Larry Bird are great to me because of what they did on the court. Period. Forget off the court and forget dunking the ball at the end and throwing it to the crowd. Within your whole article, you forgot to mention one thing about OJ Mayo's game. You forgot to say he will be an undersized shooting guard in the NBA or he may struggle at the point guard because he is not a true point guard. Also, he has to take better shots and become a more consistent shooter. I don't see where you said anything about basketball. See, people like you who claim to love basketball wants basketball to be played in the way you desire it to be seen. However, San Antonio is the most fundamental, classy team in the NBA and half of America hates them. So, how does the NBA win? Can the NBA win? Is this a bigger issue than OJ Mayo being able to play better defense? What are we dealing with here? I don't attach myself to the individual NBA person. I attach myself to what they do on the court and that is the level we should use when analyzing players.
I dislike everything about Tim Duncan but I will watch San Antonio because I respect what they do ON THE COURT. I do not let my off the court philosophies affect what I see on the court. If Mayo pounds his chest and does 16 off the backboard dunks and wins the game, I don't care. If Mayo doesn't have any tattoos and was not a basketball prodigy and fed the homeless everyday for the rest of the life and was an advisor to The Pope and loses, I care because I only care about his basketball game.. The moment someone does not get it done on the court is when I take my time to slice them apart with a sharp blade. I don't care if he recruits himself to USC. I was a very good student in high school and I "recruited myself" to the University of my choice. Also, I "recruited myself" to summer interns to prepare myself for graduation. That was my dream though. Who am I or who are you to say that OJ Mayo should not do everything he can to set himself up for his dream? Now, I have an education but as you know everyone will not go the education route so is it fair for us to say "The NBA does not need" him because he wanted to be better prepared for his path and route in life? Is anyone saying that Bill Gates is stupid because he did not finish college? I think you get my point.
In conclusion, if you love basketball like you say, why do you care about the things that have nothing to do with basketball? Tracy McGrady and Dirk Nowitski are classy but they don't get it done when it counts, so I would say the NBA does not need them before I say it does not need OJ Mayo. Imagine how many Rocket and Maverick fans went to work the next day sick to their stomach because 16 million and 19 million dollars were going home in the first round yet again. Again, I don't care if you are the classiest player in the world or the thug that robs a bank after every game (not literally). I only care if you win. I watch the NBA for the competitive passion that is displayed by the players and not who they are cheating on their wives with because as much as that is a moral issue, at the end of the day, the NBA is only a game and it involves me passionately just like a game of chest. When the game is over, I analyze and talk about the game and then I am on to the next game. That's it. If Tim Duncan or Stephen Jackson hits a game winner, I commend them equally. I don't have any bias and you should not either because IF YOU LOVE BASKETBALL LIKE YOU SAY, it does not have to be played with everyone shaking hands and patting each other on the back after the game. It should be played with passion and fire and a competitive spirit and any form of expression is okay with me AS LONG AS YOU WIN. So when you write an article talking about the deficiencies in OJ MAYO's basketball game and not the deficiencies in his personality or decisions of the court, please send me a link because Dirk Nowitski losing in the first round stimulates my NBA passion a lot more than OJ Mayo having marijuana in his car.
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